Talk: Ethereal

There should be more info on this page about the Protectorate, and specifically what Commander Ameer has to say about who the ethereal are. A good link of what he says on blizzplanet: http://blizzplanet.com/content/641/

--Stfrn 11:52, 13 February 2007 (EST)

'ethereal without wrappings'

The image of the 'Ethereal without wrappings' looks like a Mana-Wraith or Mageslayer, and I've never heard that they have anything to do with the Ethereals.--Scrotch 22:16, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

Honestly I think we can blame this on Blizzard's lack of interest in building new models. I do not believe the Ethereals are at all related to some of the similar-modeled creatures we're used to seeing such as Mana Wraiths and Shades. They are all made of energy, yes, but we know that energy-beings seem to come in all shapes and sizes (such as Naaru and Voidwalkers). Lilyth 01:29, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

The name of that particular model is literllay "unbound Ethereal" So its the current model we have for an unbound etheral. It certainly is blizzard's lazyness, but the point in the article is sound none the less. Rampage29

Faction

Arent some ethereals members of burning legion in RPG? Noobi666 (talk) 18:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

No. Just random travelers in the Twisting Nether, maruaders and filchers.Baggins (talk) 18:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Others

I saw some more of these "Ethereal without wrappings" at Bash'ir Landing and they were called Bash'ir Subprimals (elite) and Unbound Ethereals. I am not sure if Bash'ir is connected to the Ethereum. Rolandius (talk - contr) 12:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Your point being? --User:Gourra/Sig2 13:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

That the Ethereum are not the only ethereals trying to create hybrids of ethereal and void. I think Bash'ir is connected to the Ethereum, and if so then it would be moot. Rolandius (talk - contr) 13:33, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

That would be speculation. We're trying to keep speculation out of articles. Furthermore if they are "Ethereal without wrapping" doesn't mean that it has any connection to the Ethereum. --User:Gourra/Sig2 14:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Tell me about it. I am trying to keep speculation out of articles too that I keep finding. Rolandius (talk - contr) 01:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Filchers & Marauders

"Shadows & Light mentions Ethereal filchers and marauders as denizens of the Twisting nether, though it is not known if these are the same "ethereals" as the race introduced in the game."

Come on, if you just look in the Monster Manual or at the d20 SRD, you'll find out that they have nothing to do with the Burning Crusade ethereals. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 13:12, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I already rewrote that section to emphasize that these are most likely not related. "Ethereal" probably is an attribute, not the race. Wanted to rewrite it to "S&L mentions them, though they are probably not related" after the above post of yours, but you know, the servers went up again after 3.3...

Though, could you tell me the page in MoM that mentions them? As long as it doesn't right out contradict the connection, by e.g. indicating it's an attribute, Blizzard could always 'retcon' them to be of the Ethereal race - not that they'd need to do that for a one-time mention in the RPG, but who knows? ~ Nathanyel (talk) 08:31, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Marauders and filchers are cribbed from D&D. The "ethereal" part is because they dwelt on the Ethereal Plane. Marauders are like little blue dogs with fang-filled mouths, and filchers are... just weird. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 08:38, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Here is the d20SRD article for the Filcher, and here is the one for the Marauder. Look at the images and see for yourself. Xavius, the Satyr Lord 14:27, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Ah ok, so "Filcher" and "Marauder" are races/creature types, while "Ethereal" is definitely an attribute here. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 15:18, December 10, 2009 (UTC)