Is it possible that it is the chinese dragon model we have seen?--Gurluas 13:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
The chinese dragon model ingame is for a non combat pet, though it definatly would be interesting if the fel dragon used a similar model.Tweak the Whacked 13:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
What pet?--Gurluas 13:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't appear wowwiki has a page for it, least not that I can see on a quick glance, but I'm 89% sure I've seen a chinese dragon non combat pet in game. I assumed it was from the same source as the diablo and zergling pets.Tweak the Whacked 13:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I havent seen such a thing ingame, the closest thing is the mana wyrmling but it is a manawyrm not the chinese dragon, plus animations indicate it is supposed to be a combat mob, oh and by chinese dragon i mean the model called netherdragon--Gurluas 13:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Well as I've said, I can't confirm it. But it seems odd that the chinese dragon model would exist for so long and have full animations, unlike the Brutallus model that only recently appeared and has no animations, if they are for the same instance. Also, several non combat pets possess combat animations, and if you look at the size/proportions for the chinese dragon, it seems more like a small pet than a boss.Tweak the Whacked 13:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- I think you are speaking of two different creatures:
Gurluas speaks about this
while Tweak --> http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.29363#22221 --N'Nanz 13:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I think Tweak means this--Gurluas 13:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
chinesedragon
Yes, that is the creature I was refering to, Gurluas. Regardless, I'm very interested to see what this "fel dragon" actually looks like.Tweak the Whacked 13:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it will be this
--N'Nanz 13:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Since we know Kalecgos is a fel dragon, I'm guessing they'll just take a regular dragon, touch it by giving it demonic features, and maybe different sounds.
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 21:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I had assumed there was a difference between Kalecgos and fel dragons since a) they were listed separately, and b)Would be kind of lame to have two bosses without any real differences in the same instance(blizzard seems to be leaning away from that practice of late). Wouldn't surprise me if they just used a "demonic" version of the regular dragon model, though.Tweak the Whacked 21:46, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- "of late?" In molten core alone, Luciferon, Gehennas, Shazzrah, Harbinger, and Executus were ALL the same model. Magmadar, Garr, and Golemagg were all the same model as the trash of the instance. The only unique model was rags. BWL? Save chromaggus and nef, same story. If there are only two bosses in Sunwell that look the same blizzard's done fine by me! Istvan of Rexxar 13:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps a greener smokey one like the felhound in Felwood? (compare to the hounds in Molten Core). Who said Kalecgos was the fel dragon? It says that there were "a fel dragon" and "kalecgos", unless my English is rotting by the lack of use. --
Ravenore , the Necroshadowmancer 23:12, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- It's really kind of disappointing the model they used for the Fel Dragon. If you haven't seen it yet, it's essentially a frost wyrm, but replace the blue parts with green and the frost aura with fel fire. WTB less model recycling. --Adonzo 08:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
The proper name of this creature[]
Would the proper name of this creature be "fel frost wyrm"? Apparently the creature's name in the files is "felfrostwurm", and, besides looking like the typical frost wyrm, the only known one, Felmyst, is created from the body of a slain blue dragon. --Presea 18:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- indeed, but there is nothing "frosty" about Felmyst's attacks, which look to be primarily nature/poison based --Adonzo 11:01, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's only called "felfrostwurm" in the files, and that doesn't really mean anything. Wretched are called "crackelves", the Forsaken are called Scourge, Maiev is called "Miev", and there are a variety of other such 'errors'. She isn't a "frost wurm" at all in-game, using no ice-based attacks whatsoever. The only other mentioning of this 'species' is "fel dragon", and that's what we should probably go with. The name "felfrostwurm" is probably just the result of the modeler, I don't know, copying and pasting the frostwurm model directory and using it to create the model. Suzaku 00:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- She was called a Fel dragon in a place that is not the model files. That seems more credible.--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 00:46, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Frost Wyrms Fel Dragons? Fel Dragons Frost Wyrms?[]
Is it possible that Frost Wyrms are created using the same Fel magic that created the fel dragon? If so, perhaps it should be included as speculation in either article. Bill 
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Removal of Nightbane as a fel dragon[]
I removed this recently added addition for these reasons:
- Fel implies fel energy, of which none was used to create him.
- He uses no fel attacks, which most fel creatures would.
- Even though a blue dragon, Medivh infused a piece of his essence in his fiery attacks on the dragon to burn him at his core.
- Lastly, he wasn't raised from the dead by normal means. His charred remains remained charred. He's ... unique.
Whatever he might be considered, it's not a fel dragon. User:Coobra/Sig4 20:49, June 18, 2010 (UTC)