How about, instead of forcing warriors into one role, tactics for fitting into a party regardless of what role a warrior specs him/herself around. Seems to me to be a more productive course than belligerantly bellowing "YOU WILL TANK AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!" Constanz 12:30, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
For that matter, the condescending tone of the "how to help a..." section needs a serious rewrite. As a warrior, I am NOT an accessory for your character, and I resent being treated as such. Constanz 12:52, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
Page too big; there seems no need for tactics relating to individual abilities to be placed in a bit list here - this just massively bloats the page, and duplicates info. Am moving the actual tips for each ability to the Tips and Tactics section of each ability's own page. Vrisch 05:33, 23 March 2006 (EST)
- agreeable, seems better to move the info to the individual skills / talents themselves though: Warrior talents | Warrior abilities. imo at least. either way i'll probably end up moving that info to those pages later, since the skills are mostly stubbed right now still. Feel free to start on it though :) i've been picking up way too much to "be done" lately. CJ 05:40, 23 March 2006 (EST)
Embarrassing[]
These sections about how to play a character are embarrassing. They are full of typos, awful grammar, hideous spelling, the list goes on. Plus, what is written "correctly" reads terribly. It reads eerily similar to reports written by high school students trying to "sound" professional and having no idea whatsoever what they are writing.
Furthermore, the section on Tanking reads as if written by a Priest. Warriors are very capable of dealing high amounts of damage. People who read this may be turned off from this class because they have interpreted one's opinion or play style as fact. While tanking is important, this is not a personal BBS or website, and the information presented should be neutral. Statements such as "Please don't try to compete with the rogue or the mage or the, well anyone, as a damage dealer - you Take Damage." are not neutral. This is what I'd expect to read on a guild message board, NOT an "info source" for WoW. This goes for Talent Strategies, too. (Speaking of the Talent section, there is NO information on Warrior talents expect Last Stand, which again provides one's play style and opinion. It does not provide any FACTUAL information, such as which talent tree Last Stand is found in, rage usage, cooldown, etc. It also does not clearly describe how to use said ability, and is extremely difficult to understand what the author is describing, especially to one who has never used the ability, thus defeating the whole point of having it included in the article.)
It is very challenging to provide advise and tips without personal commentary. The Warrior tactics page is full of one or more persons opinions or play styles. WoW and similar MMO's strengths come from the nearly endless options available to the players through talents, spells, abilities, talent points, weapons, armor and the player's personality. In many games, there is one way to play: Stomp the Goomba or he kills you. In WoW, there is much more.
This article, and similar/related articles on play and tactics, should all be removed, as it's clear the authors and editors can not edit in a neutral, factual way, nor in a college level writing style. This article would not pass a college level English course, yet it's been posted to a public encyclopedia. Frankly, it's embarrassing.
Yes, people are doing this in their spare time, and yes, they are not being paid, but when you volunteer to feed the homeless and don't wash your hands before doing so, all you've done is make a bigger mess for someone else to clean up.
For now, I'm leaving the article as-is. One, I don't have the time to clean it up, and two, I don't feel qualified on Warrior tactics to edit this page; I came here looking for some information on the talent trees.
this is prolly not applicable anymore is it? I think I'll remove this post after a while unless you still feel the warr article is "embarrassing"--Shishi 00:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
spirit[]
I've added a little note to the PvE solo tactics section about spirit. I feel like this is an unorthodox statement I've made since it is so vastly underestimated by most warriors so I'm adding a defense here before people start reverting/flaming without actually checking things.
Anyone who feels spirit is useless for a warrior should look at the health regeneration article that clearly shows warriors are very exceptional in this area. Of course, you don't regen health at all (normally) while in combat, so yeah it doesn't help while fighting, but that this effectively cuts down on down time is proven by hunter pets. Ask any hunter and they'll tell you how awesome the pets natural high health regen is. Warriors in my opion can at least match that regen. Truth is that more research is needed to be sure of this as I don't know how much health pets regen per spirit (my hunter is very low level) but certain is that warriors can easily increase their spirit, pets can't. --Shishi 23:50, 22 September 2007 (UTC)